You buy a home with an FHA loan. Every month, you pay not only your principle, but PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance), and property taxes. When property tax time comes around, the mortgage company takes the money you’ve been paying every month out of the escrow account and pays your taxes.
When you refinance a home, you still have to pay the taxes with your new mortgage company. We did this recently (more about my refinance next week). We paid almost a full year of property taxes with our new mortgage company, Bank of America. And we had a refund of almost the same amount due us from our old mortgage company, Taylor, Bean, and Whitaker.
Last week we received our refund. I deposited it into the bank. The bank held it for a few days and then made the funds available, so I transferred money to our ING Savings account. This morning I woke up to an overdrafted checking account to the tune of $880.00. What happened?
The Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker Check Bounced
Apparently, the feds raided Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker on August 5th, a couple of weeks after our refinance closed. They filed bankruptcy on August 24th. Which leads to the question…what happens to the escrow money?
The very purpose of escrow is to keep funds safe, so they can be used for a specific purpose. In this case, the funds were to be used to pay property taxes. But since we refinanced with a different bank, and we paid property taxes into a new escrow account, the money should have been returned to us. And it should have been no problem, because the point of escrow is to hold money. The money should have been there.
So what happened to the money?
Colonial Bank is Shut Down by the Feds
Apparently Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker used Colonial Bank frequently. Mortgage payments were deposited there. Employees were paid from Colonial Bank. Sometimes from the same account as the mortgages were deposited into, according to NBC 11.
That doesn’t reassure me that my money and that of many other Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker customers was kept safe.
So the question remains: What happened to the money?
Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker’s Answer
I called Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker to find out what was going on. After being on hold for an hour, I finally got through to Ramona. Yes, she assured me, they were aware that checks were bouncing. The reason was that the bank they used had ceased and desisted. (Colonial Bank, perhaps?) But they are going to reissue checks from a new bank, I was assured. My new check should arrive in “a few weeks.”
So I asked the obvious question. “How long is a few weeks? Three? Six?” She told me two. I’m not holding my breath, but I’ll let you know if the check gets here…and doesn’t bounce.
So what is the fallout? And what happens to the consumers in the meanwhile?
The Consumers are Left Holding the Bag
I can’t speak for everyone, but I can tell you what life is like for us. First of all, we had 8 transactions bounce in our checking account with Chase this morning. Chase charges $25 for each failed transaction, for a total of $200. But they only charge for the first 6 transactions, I’m told, so the total is $150.
Chase told me they’d give me a one time courtesy credit of $70, which is the maximum they could give me. So I’m out $80. Fortunately payday is tomorrow, so we’ll be in the black again. Barely. My husband’s paycheck will be about enough to cover what we owe at this point, so we won’t be spending any money for the next few days at least. Fortunately we don’t have any bills due, and our pantry and freezer are stocked, so we’re fine. I think we have enough gas in our cars, too.
Since I had just moved the money over to ING, I couldn’t transfer it right back. We had a little extra in ING that should hit our bank account on Tuesday, so by then we should be OK.
I truly feel for those who don’t have an emergency fund at all and for those whose paydays are not tomorrow. As I was researching this morning, it seems that consumers with their taxes still held at Taylor, Bean, & Whitaker are unsure their property taxes will be paid at all.
It Makes Me Angry
Thousands of families in the United States work hard. We do the best we can to manage our money. We don’t bounce checks, even when money is tight. And when our money is put into an escrow account, we trust that it will be kept safe. And when a financial institution issues a check, we expect that it is good.
And in one moment, when a financial institution hasn’t performed ethically, and a bank is shut down, and a lender declares bankruptcy, the lives of hundreds of consumers are turned upside down. We’re left without our money, that we worked hard to earn. We’re left with overdraft fees to pay. Fees that are not our fault. We’re left wondering whether we’ll need to come up with another $1500 by November, so our property taxes will be paid.
We have to cut through the red tape. We waste an hour of our morning on the phone, just to find out where the money went. We wonder whether this is in any way covered by the FDIC. We wonder if the check we’ve been promised will indeed show up in the mail. And if it does, we wonder if it will bounce again.
I’m glad we’re going to be OK. We’re tight, and the next couple of months will probably be rough, but I know we’ll survive this. But I also know there are families out there devastated by this. Families who will be reeling from this bank failure for months to come. And my heart goes out to them.
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I call Judge Funk’s office about 5 times a day and I keep sending him the bounced check and letters from Taylor Bean at least 5 times a week. Get a few thousand people calling and mailing his office, at least his staff can bitch to him about the calls and mail and maybe get that Oct 8th date moved up. I also include a bill for the bank fees charged when the check bounced and interest accural on that as well as the money Equity acceleerator is holding.
Can you provide Judge Funk’s phone number and address? Thanks.
Any one still stuck with TBW? I am being required to send them checks with escrow amount sincluded only for them not to make disubursments as last month I hate to pay my taxes on my own or face a 12% penatly.
Any one just not sending them checks until this resolves?
randy,
can you post judge funks’s address at the court house?
B of A took over everything on my end. I don’t recommend sending anything to TBW. Any idea when the checks will be resent? This is getting insane. I haven’t even seen media coverage. I’m a Real Estate agent, and this is totally unprofessional.
I just got an email from the FHA whom I copied on an email I sent to TBW, below is the most relevant part:
“If you believe your escrow account is being handled incorrectly by your lender, you should first contact that lender in writing, outlining the nature of your complaint. The servicer must acknowledge the complaint in writing within 20 business days of receipt of the complaint. Within 60 business days, the servicer must resolve the complaint by correcting the account or giving a statement of the reasons for its position. A sample complaint letter can be found on HUD?s website at:
http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg.....slettr.cfm
If the servicing lender does not respond or the borrower is not satisfied, they can file a complaint may be filed with the Office of RESPA. The complaint should outline the violation and identify the violators by name, address and phone number. Complainants should also provide their own name and phone number for follow up questions from HUD. Requests for confidentiality will be honored. Complaints should be sent to: Director, Office of RESPA and Interstate Land Sales US Department of Housing and Urban Development Room 9154 451 7th Street, SW Washington, DC 20410″
My loan is also still with T, B&W and I have continued to send my payment including the escrow. I’m not sure if that is the right thing to do who knows I may just be throwing my money out the window. On the other hand I have copies of my checks so if anything ever comes back on me I have proof of payment. I will definately be using the sample complaint letter. Thanks for the information!
Tod I am still with TBW, & sending my payment including the escrow. I also copied the checks. Hope I am doing the right thing. No advise from the media etc.
My original investor was wells fargo, from what I understand we are the only ones swtill stuck with TBW….radica, todd do you also have wells fargo as original investor??? I am wondering if we can call wells fargo and somehow fast track getting transferred to a new lender…this has gone on long enough…
Lucy we were not originally with Wells Fargo. We refinanced in 2006 through a broker and Taylor , Bean has been our servicer ever since. Even before we refinanced we were not with Wells Fargo…I don’t remember who it was but am sure it wasn’t Wells Fargo.
It was just people that originally went with Wells Fargo as their broker. TB&W was the investor that bought your mortgage loan. We financed our home through a local community bank, who unfortunately, sold our loan to TB&W. I actually used to work in the mortgage department when we bought our home and quit just as this whole mess began. The bank knows about it, but basically they cannot do a thing because they sold the loan to TBW and they then became the servicer of our loan. There’s NOTHING they can do for us at this point. This whole thing is so unfortunate because even people that had been waiting 45-60 days to get an FHA loan (TBW did FHA government loans) were screwed because TBW went under maybe right when they were getting ready to close on a refinance or purchase. Therefore they had to go back and start all over again. Of course in the long run, they should be happy because obviously TBW was a horrible, horrible company. We had our mortgage with them two years. They’ve always been hard to deal with, customer service wise. They raised our payment each year we had them because of escrows not being estimated correctly. They were also very hard for the bank to deal with while trying to fianance a loan, they had loans in underwriting for weeks. We should all be glad they went under so they couldn’t treat people that way anymore. But so unfortunate that we have to deal with the crap of trying to get our escrow money or other money being held in some custodial account somewhere (Equity Accelerator). Can anyone tell me the phone number for Judge Funk’s office in Florida? Thanks!
Lucy I never had wells Fargo, I first had Flag bank. Yes I agree w/you this has gone far enough. I am still sending my Payments to TBW, they told me a few days ago they will pay my insurance/taxes. I hope they will.
wells fargo is just the investor, has nothing to do if you went through a broker or not-the originals investor is the bank or in a lot cases, the govt who backs the loan, it is not necessarily the company you go with.
Someone at TBW told me most of the loans left the original investors were Wells Fargo. of course who can believe what they say anyways.
Oh well, guess I will keep sending checks and hoping for the best!
http://www.ocala.com/article/2.....-agreement
Maybe they are using our escrow money to pay for the lights!
That’s not even funny! My money just went to a 71,000 dollar light bill! How could the city even consider turning off their electricity? They would be leaving us even more powerless (nopunintended) and adding to this mess resulting in a longer wait!
Hi Lucy,
Judge Funks address and phone are on theirwebsite. Google United States Bankruptcy Court Middle District Florida. He is in the Jacksonville location
I called EAP again today to check on the status, and I was told that, although the bankruptcy judge has not endorsed the agreement, once he does, the we will get our money back. The EAP worker said that our money is still there in the account and will definitely get it back as soon as they are unfrozen. Hopefully he is right.
Awful news, I was just informed by TBW I am stuck with them and my loan is not going to be transferred.
great. anyone else get this horrible news?
Lucy – How is this possible when they have gone bankrupt and are no longer able to service loans? It just doesn’t seem possible.
Lucy, I am in the same boat. My loan has not been transferred from TBW. I am going to send them my october payment but the whole thing feels very sketchy. I have been advised by the Office of Financial Regulation, to continue to stay up to date with my payments. Just keep record of your check. I am not sure about our escrow money though. This whole thing had taken up way too much of my time on the phone, trying to figure it all out.
I am confused as well. I was told by TB&W that Bank of America was taking over my loan, so I sent them my payment, and then the next month received a letter from CENLAR, stating that they were taking over my payments.
I received a check from Taylor Bean and Whitaker for my escrow money and it bounced last week. I have no idea who to contact. The hold times are unending and I am uncertain if anyone is even answering their number anymore.
Any ideas on what I should do?
TB&W does answer their phone, but only after an hour or so of hold time. And so far they haven’t given me any information other than the money to pay the escrow refund is there, but they don’t know when it will be released. Not that I’m sure I believe them.
As far as your mortgage goes, I’d probably call BofA and CENLAR to figure out which one has your account. You should be protected from any late fees or legal action, as long as you can demonstrate that you made an honest effort to pay your mortgage.
Best wishes with that!
I used this # to call TBW and was only on hold for a few minutes.
1-800-530-2602
The Bankruptcy judge approved the agreement between the FDIC and TBW today.
kim,
agreed. I have been sending my payments all delivery confirmation with the escrows included. If I do not get my refund from paying taxes out of pocket by the end of october, I am not including escrows in novembers check. If you hear anything otherwise about our payments and escrow, please post it!
tracy, they are in bankruptcy but chapter 11 which means they are restructuring not liquidating, so they are trying to remain in business. When the woman at TBW told me i was a loan remaining as part of the rebuilding of TBW it was all I could do to keep myself from saying to her “oh joy” :)
Hey D, Can you post where you got your information about Judge Funk signing the deal? Nothing on his calendar till October 8th and nothing in Ocala or Tampa newspapers.
Thanks
I have access to the docketing system for the bankrutpcy court through work, so I was able to look at the judge’s docket and see that he approved the agreement yesterday. I just called EAP and told them about the agreement, but they said they had not been notified about it yet. However, the EAP agent said they have my money (and I assume everyone elses) and once they get the okay from the court, they are going to refund it.
I should add that the docket does show that there are hearings scheduled for October 8th, but none of them involve the FDIC. The judge’s order on the FDIC/TBW agreement said it was a “final” order, rejecting all the objections that were filed by other parties.
Since our loan is still with T,B & W I’m assuming we are in the same situation of being stuck with them. Hopefully something is resolved before the end of October with the whole escrow situation. I had to pay my taxes out of pocket and just hope that I see that money again. Which seems a little ridiculous that I continue to send my escrow payment. Thanks to everyone for all the information…this has become my lifeline for knowing what is going on with this situation.
I also want to thank everyone for their comments and updates. This keeps my hope alive that we’ll all receive our money back soon. Please keep the comment stream alive until this is all resolved!
Just a small update from my end.
I sent TBW a letter requesting for a new escrow check.
They sent me a letter yesterday that they got my request and will reply in 60 days.
Not much, but at least someone is still out there answering queries.
hey todd, I actually posed that question to TBW again today…why am I sending you full payments if your not disbursing my escrows. they gave me a very vague answer about trying to resolve the situation
. lets keep our fingers crossed our money isnt falling into a black hole!
Below is the email I received from my contact at FDIC about Judge Funk signing off and how EA refunda may work
Your information about the judge’s decision is right on target.
Now, the FDIC will be working with the servicer companies to get the payments posted — we have no information on how those servicer companies will communicate or work with Equity Accelerator (which is not considered a servicer).
One option is for you to contact the actual servicer of your loan and have them connect with Equity Accelerator. If you don’t know who that is, I can help you find that by identifying the owner of your loan.
Phil Roth
Great info. Thanks. I am with Cenlar and I am up to date on my mortgage now but have $1450 sitting with EA. I stopped the EA program so I am supposed to get a check. As far as I know they will not automatically disperse my money to Cenlar but if they do then I will be paid ahead on my mortgage.. Cross your fingers, at least there is progress.
I was told by EA that when they were able to release funds, they would be transferred into the account from which they were drafted.
I talked to Phil Roth from FDIC yesterday. He gave me some good information. He basically said the judge did agree to start giving back the money. He said that for people that had money with other mortgages, that money was going to start being applied to the mortgages. But for people, such as me, that have EA, it could take a little longer because for some reason the money was going into an account at Western Union and then going to TBW and they will need to verify that the money is not owned by TBW before going to the mortgage or back to me, the borrower that has canceled the EA program. But at least we know something is happening.
I too hold TBW mortgage…only I have a hail damaged property and have received a check made out to me and TBW…do you think someone down there will endorse and mail me back my check to do my home repairs?!!!!!!! Shirley
Shirley:
I to had this problem.I sent the check ti TB&W Loss Draft Dept.
1417 N Magnolia Ave Ocala Fl 34475.
TBW is servicing my loan for Wells Fargo.
Good Luck.
Did you speak with anyone there…when I called they said to send the draft there and it would take 5-7 days and that I would have to sign it prior to mailing it to them. Then a whole bunch of requirements for draws on the money and permits, contractor copies of licenses…I have several properties and none of the lenders required that much…one even signed the draft and sent it back to me to deposit and start repairs..that is why I don’t want to send it …may take forever and then wait for draws..
I just spoke to my contact Mr. Roth at the FDIC. Those of us in Equity Accelerator (EA) are still in limbo and we may never get our money back from EA. He told me the bankruptcy agreement does not cover the money EA is holding. He said the FDIC lawyers are working with EA but they have to prove the money is ours (you and me) and not Taylor Bean’s. The EA money goes through Western Union and they have it tied to Taylor Bean so the creditors are going after the EA money even though it is ours and not TBW’s. He said this one will take a few weeks to months to resolve so dont expect your EA refund anytime soon. Mr. Roth is very helpful and I will keep posting after our weekly talks.
Do you have a contact number for Mr. Roth?
I just spoke with Ken at the FDIC and he told me sometbhing completely different – he said the agreement did cover the EA program and that the FDIC and TBW were currently going through all of the records to determine where the money goes and we would get our money (those of us in the EA program) in a few weeks. ???
Phil Roth’s number is 972-761-8270
ok, so i transferred my loan and received a refund check for my escrow account which bounced. where do i fall in the whole return process? who do i need to contact other than tbw?
radica, todd-
have either of you called TBW this week???? I just talked to someone who said they are getting rid of all loans by months end!!! There may be hope for us after all!
Lucy
I have not called this week but was planning on calling sometime next week. Sounds like good news…lets just hope that it actually happens! Thanks for the information! I will let you know what I find out next week.
Thanks Lucy
I got similar news as Lucy. I called TBW regarding my escrow fund this morning and she said the funds still had not been released, but that they did expect everything to be reconciled by the end of October!
So when should we expect checks?
If anyone recieves a new escrow check let me know? For the last month they said they have been trying to get there funds released and heard they have so do we just get our escrow checks and why cant we get more if it was our check that bounced they would sure get more from us not matter why our check bounced if you know what i mean.
so far haven’t gotten anything from them.
I got a letter saying they are looking into the matter and will get back to me within 60 days.
If anyone gets a check, or anything more substantial do keep the rest of us posted.
Thanks everyone! The feedback was really helpful!
Danny,
No check yet for me. I got my letter from TBW on September 8th, saying they would get back to me in writing in 60 days. So November 8th is their deadline to get back to me. Didn’t think it would take this long.
I rec’d the same 60day letter way back at the beginning. Like everyone else I’m hopeful I’ll actually receive a check this month but I wouldn’t put too much stock in the form letter they sent out.
latest update, I was told today looks like some company named American Home Mortgage may be taking over my loan. of course who knows because you get a different story from TBW each time you called. I looked them up, a million consumer complaint against them…
Lucy I just called Taylor, Bean because looking at my account as of yesterday they were transferring my loan. Apparently American Home Mortgage is taking over my loan as well. I also asked how the escrow situation will be rectified and was informed the escrow money should be sent to the new servicer in November. Who knows it seems like every day we are being told something different. But hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
hi todd,
I wonder why they arent sending it right away? from my research and from infor posted by radica on another site it looks like this new company has already been in bankruptcy once before. I just hope that we finally catch a break and this new company isnt as bad as the blogs indicate!
Just got a call from Phil Roth at the FDIC. He said he read today that all escrow monies and Equity accelerator refunds should be out starting next week. Keep your fingers crossed
I also got the same call, keeping my fingers crossed. He said to wait until the middle of the week to call EA because they hadn’t gotten the notice yet as of Friday, it was brand new news.
I tried calling EAP today, but they had not heard anything yet.
I am short $1740 for this deal. I had automatic payment to TBW and it went out 3 days before they closed down the server. Now it is stuck with colonial waiting for this judge to release the Money. does any one here have the same issue and if so what are you doing about it. thanks
Sven,
In one way or another, lots of folks have the same issue. I am out $1800. I refinanced away from Taylor Bean and my escrow account reimbursement check bounced. The bank that issued the check was closed by the FDIC. I am waiting on these funds as well.
Has anyone actually seen an Assignment of Mortgage that has been transferred? My fear is if TBW is not filing these with towns and cities and once they compeltely go belly up getting a copy will be impossible
The only thing you will probably receive is a letter from a new servicer. I would think you would have already received one.
Go to http://www.taylorbean.com/
As of Oct 20, 2009, the 3rd paragraph pertains to a link to find out who your new service provider will be. You’ll need your TBW loan number.
In my case, it also provided a telephone number to the new service provider.
The issue is if TBW does not file that Assignment it looks like they still hold the loan. eventually they will cease all business and if you ever try to refiance without a valid assignment being filed, the pay off of the exisiting mortgage will be to TBW and they will not be in business to rectify it. I urge everyone to request a copy so that down the line a year or two or ten or 20 if they try to sell their homes or to refinance the issue of who holds the actual mortgage is in black and white and on record with their registry or deeds
I would suspect that your new service provider would be the one filing the reassignment. They’re the ones who’ll be left holding the bag in the event of a default. It may require a signature from TBW, but I’d think you’d have better luck looking to your new service provider.
Hi all,
Please consider this post a correction of my October 8th post regarding my conversation with Mr. Roth from the FDIC. He had indicated there would be movement on the mortgage payments sent to TBW but not yet cashed and sent to new servicer. I had misunderstood our conversation/Those of us still waiting for a new escrow refund check or Equity Accelerator refund are still SOL
How about your October 16th post that:
“Just got a call from Phil Roth at the FDIC. He said he read today that all escrow monies and Equity accelerator refunds should be out starting next week. Keep your fingers crossed.”
Tracy seemed to have received a similar call from Mr. Roth. I called EAP today but they said they have received the notice yet.
I haven’t called EA yet this week, because I had a feeling the call from Phil Roth was too good to be true. So am I understanding that we still shouldn’t expect to see our money for a long time if we had EA?
I just called Phil Roth. He said that the bankruptcy judge did release the funds from the Colonial bank accounts that EA used to store our money. He said that the FDIC is working on getting our money to our mortgage providers. I told him that EAP keeps telling us that once the money is unfrozen, they (EAP) will send it back to us. But Mr. Roth said that the money will actually be sent to our mortgage providers and he told me to call my lender in a week to 10 days to see if they got it. I told him that money for my September 1st payment is what is frozen and that I sent the September 1st payment out of my own pocket after learning of the frozen funds. He said that once my frozen funds make it to my lender, I will probably be able to apply them to my next payment.
What about those of us who have canceled the EAP program because of all of this crap and the fact that EAP hasn’t informed its customers of any of the goings on? I don’t want it sent to my new mortgage provider as I am refinancing with someone else. Do we not have a choice as to where the money goes?
He made it sound like we had no choice – it would be sent to our lender, and he said that we would have to call the lender to work out the logistics.
I called the Case Manager in Judge Funk’s courtroom assigned to the TBW case. She directed me to a website that is a repository for documents related to the case:
http://bmcgroup.com/restructur.....ientID=218
After you hit the “Agree” button, a “General Information” page will be displayed for the TBW case. From there, look across the top (orange) navigation bar & click the “Court Docket” link. If you’re gathering info. on the FDIC’s involvement, you’ll most likely be interested in documents 468 & 222.
Doc 222 is the original “stipulation” that the judge laid out for FDIC. It appears there were several fillings by multiple parties to modify that stipulation. Doc 468 is the final result that addresses all of the subsequent filings & amends doc 222.
If my understanding of doc 222 is correct, FDIC & TBW are supposed to finish the exchange of information on or before Oct. 30, 2009. After that, they’ll determine the best course of action.
correction: doc 222 (10th page of PDF, shows page number 7) says escrow accounts to be handled “as soon as reasonably possible”.
I think the Oct 30 date is for Colonial accounts & loan payments that have been in limbo.
Called TBW today. They said the judge is now allowing the money to be unfroze in stages. Right now they are in stage one with depositing the checks that are in the lockbox and getting loans current.
She said to check by next week. Maybe the escrow stage is next. That’s what I’m waiting on. they have $4000 of my money.
Brad
I called EA again today and they said they have no new information. The representative said looked up my information and said that my money is still being held in one of TBW’s custodial accounts and that the release of the money won’t happen until the release is approved by the bankruptcy judge. He said to keep calling back. We are back to getting the run around – the FDIC says the judge released the money, but EA said it hasn’t happened yet. My plan is to call the EA and the FDIC every day until I get a definite answer. I might include the judge’s chambers on that list. It has been two months now – enough is enough.
Hey D,
Dont hold your breath for that money anytime soon. The FDIC has no plans to notify EA about the Judge’s approval as they state EA is not a mortgage servicer. I wrote a letter and mailed it to Chairman Bair at the FDIC yesterday. Maybe going to the top will get something moving. It works at my company but probably not in DC. Your gov’t hard at work again.
I know – that is what EA told me. They said that they would be notified by TBW. I don’t know why TBW and just let them know. The FDIC keeps giving us inconsistent information. First they say that they have their lawyers working with EA and Western Union to prove that the money is ours and not TBW’s profits. Then they tell you that they will not notify EA because they are not a mortgage provider. I just hope that if I call everyday they willet so sick of me that someone will at least give me some useful, and true, information.
Okay. I just called TBW. I told them that I used to be with them, refinanced a few years ago to another lender, stayed with EA, and had my September payment frozen, and that I wanted to know if they knew when I could expect to see the funds, since they are the sponsor of the EA program. TBW said that the accounts at Colonial Bank that housed EA’s funds should be unfrozen now, or in the very near future and to call EA and see how they will disperse the funds, since they will be responsible for doing so. TBW also said that they see the “light at the end of the tunnel” and that the funds that were frozen should all be released by the end of this month.
I then called EA. Of course, EA said they ahd no news on any funds being unfrozen. I then said that was unacceptable and that the FDIC and TBW both said that some funbds were unfrozen and that they, EA, needs to be more proactive in getting information about our money. She then put me on hold and checked with her supervisor. She came back and said that they were notified that some funds were unfrozen, but they were still waiting to hear if the funds for their program were among them. She said that their corp. office is working with the FDIC on deciding what to do with our money once they get the green light to release them, i.e., wehther to send it to us or send it to our mortgage lenders. She said that there has been some “movement”. At least that is something.
D – Can you tell me what number you call when you call TBW? I would also like to call. EA is being absolutely ridiculous that they aren’t being proactive with communicating with the FDIC and TBW, especially when they apparently have so many customers that have this problem. I was told a couple of weeks ago that I would be receiving a letter from EA explaining the situation, but have yet to receive anything.
I just called the TBW customer service number: 1-888-225-2164. We should all just keep calling both EA and TBW daily until they send us our money.
I was given a TBW number for Escrow issues:
866-369-6509
I’ve called a couple of times & wasn’t on hold long either time.
I was also given an email address for escrow issues:
LoanFunds@TaylorBean.com
I got a response w/in a day or two.
I called Mr. Roth today. He said that the funds held by EA should be released “fairly soon”. The way he explained it to me was that there are two kinds of funds frozen – “payment” funds and “escrow” funds. He said the funds held by EA that were frozen are “payments” funds, and those are the funds that the bankruptcy judge said could be released now. Mr. Roth said that the “payment” funds are in the process of being released, but that it takes a little time because, pursuant to the agreement between the FDIC and TBw, the parties have to show documentation of the funds that are being held, where they were suppossed to go, etc, – generally, they are performing an accounting of the “payment” funds right now. So he said that there is no cause for the concern about the fact that EA hasn’t released the funds yet, since EA won’t be notified to release the funds until the accounting is done. I mentioned to him that TBW told me the accounting would be done by October 31st, and he said that is entitely possible, but to keep checking back because it may take a little while longer. For “escrow” funds – property taxes, homeowner’s insurance payments – he said that it could take a little while longer, but he did not elaborate since my funds are “payment” funds and not “escrow” funds. I will continue to check back with EA daily and Mr. Roth weekily, if anyone else wants to do the same.
I have yet to receive any offical paperwork from my new lender, but if my escrow balance is not transferred in its entirety, I am goign to be very dismayed. First of all, I had about $1300 in escrow when TBW went bankrupt, yet I continued tomake my mortgage payemtns to them which they cashed. Now I have about $1750 in escrow, if they try to claim all that is frozen then somehting is amiss, because two of my payments came after the bankruptcy….I just wish I had something in black and white from this new lender showing my totals. The not knowing is killing me
Lucy, Our property taxes are due on November 15th. I thought for sure things would be straightened out by now, but obviously they’re not. So I’m holding my breath, hoping my taxes will be paid. BofA is my new lender, so I’ll give them a call this week to make sure all is well.
good luck lynnae!!!
Has anyone with American Home Mortgage called them yet???
No, TBW told me not to call as AHM will send me a letter.
my payment for Nov will be to American Home Mortgage.
Hi Lucy, just found out last nite American Home mortgage is my new lender, will be calling them today to start to straighten out the mess. Plus, I have hail damage check made out to TBW & me that will have to be figured out with their loss drafts, plus I had to pay insurance to keep it in effect until escrows get straightened out, plus the tax is due (escrowed also with TBW). Feel better now knowing who’s what where. Good luck.Hopefully the end is in sight.
hi shirley,
good luck, I hope it all goes smoothly. I was going to call tehm next week if I do not receive my letter by then. Did you receive a letter yet or was this thru TBW you were told? Can you let us know youre experience when you talk to AHMS, curious to see if they are ok to deal with which other blogs indicate they are not….
Hi Guys,
I just posted this on anotehr site as well:
http://www.11alive.com/news/lo.....mp;catid=3
looks like anyone waiting on a refund from a bounced check should file a Proof of Claim
Does anyone know where/how to file a proof of claim? I want my $1,850.00 dollars back, NOW!
I sure we don’t have to file a claim with everyone else… we will be last in line behind the electric company… the gas man… the bagel guy..
oh my.. I called again today and they said check back at the end of the week.
Brad
I called EA today and asked to speak with a supervisor. I told the supervisor that the FDIC and TBW both said that the funds have been released and, as a result, I wanted my money back. The supervisor said that they, EA, did receive a letter from the FDIC on October 15th saying that the funds have been released, but that they cannot do anything until the bankruptcy court tells them to release them. So now I guess we have to follow up with Mr. Roth at the FDIC and see if it is true, or maybe call the judge’s chambers.
Is someone going to call Mr. Roth? I really want our money back, with the holidays coming up, it would certainly be nice to have it. I called EA yesterday after receiving a letter from them saying I have a credit balance in my account after we refinanced and that I could call to have my money refunded. I was really excited until I called and the guy said it was a letter automatically sent out when payment methods change and to disregard it. Of course the first correspondence I got from EA during this whole fiasco is a piece of rubbish. He didn’t seem to know anything about when the money would be refunded, but that’s not a surprise. I’m going to call Mr. Roth today.
I just called him the other day, as discussed above. I plan on calling him next week. If you call him today, I would appreciate if you post what he says. Maybe if we just keep calling all the relavnt parties regularly, they will finally have a little sense of urgency. It has been over two months now.
It seems that this is the only forum that is tracking the issues and I’m glad we are teaming on this.
If the question is asked to Mr. Roth… ask about will we have to file a claim with the court or will TBW do the right thing and refund our money?
It’s been too long…
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