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		<title>By: On Being Objective &#124; Sonlight Blog</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-28729</link>
		<dc:creator>On Being Objective &#124; Sonlight Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 18:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my travels around the blogosphere this morning, I ran into a comment by &#8220;bob&#8221; about objective thinking. He states that &#8220;it is absolutely imperative that today’s children be exposed to as many [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Homeschool Record Keeping &#8211; It&#039;s Not Just Teaching That Matters &#8230; &#124; Homeschool Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeschool Record Keeping &#8211; It&#039;s Not Just Teaching That Matters &#8230; &#124; Homeschool Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our School Decision, and How We Got There &#8211; homeschool. I left you hanging with a little teaser on Monday, when I told you about the school budget cuts and my concerns about the upcoming school year. I told you I was trying to decide between staying at public school, &#8230; [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Our School Decision, and How We Got There &#8211; homeschool. I left you hanging with a little teaser on Monday, when I told you about the school budget cuts and my concerns about the upcoming school year. I told you I was trying to decide between staying at public school, &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pashmina</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-27438</link>
		<dc:creator>pashmina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 05:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a brave decision. I hope your children are able to interact with other kids their age through sport and other activities as you say.... though taking your kids out of school will remove a lot of incidental contact between classes etc. 

I really like what Seth Godin writes about schools these days just being production lines producing homogenized workers for factories rather than remarkable individuals. Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a brave decision. I hope your children are able to interact with other kids their age through sport and other activities as you say&#8230;. though taking your kids out of school will remove a lot of incidental contact between classes etc. </p>
<p>I really like what Seth Godin writes about schools these days just being production lines producing homogenized workers for factories rather than remarkable individuals. Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-23271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much amen to the post and most of the comments.  My wife and I got tired of contending with government school &quot;educators&quot; on an almost daily basis... I used to grade and return the letters my children brought home from the Principal&#039;s office... usually a &quot;D&quot; for grammar and spelling and an &quot;F&quot; for content.  I wrote special software for my children so that they were able to actually learn on their own. Three of my children are now homeschooling their children... with spectacular success.

I was an early admissions student at our state university, but it was based much more on what I learned outside the classroom (e.g. sitting on the floor between the stacks at my &quot;High&quot; School library and downtown public library) than in the government school classrooms... which BTW were orders of magnitude better when I grew up (in the 1940s and 50s) than anything I&#039;ve been able to see today.

Homeschooling is the hope of our future if we are to progress scientifically, academically and politically to restore our American Republic to its former innovative entrepreneurial and sociological greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much amen to the post and most of the comments.  My wife and I got tired of contending with government school &#8220;educators&#8221; on an almost daily basis&#8230; I used to grade and return the letters my children brought home from the Principal&#8217;s office&#8230; usually a &#8220;D&#8221; for grammar and spelling and an &#8220;F&#8221; for content.  I wrote special software for my children so that they were able to actually learn on their own. Three of my children are now homeschooling their children&#8230; with spectacular success.</p>
<p>I was an early admissions student at our state university, but it was based much more on what I learned outside the classroom (e.g. sitting on the floor between the stacks at my &#8220;High&#8221; School library and downtown public library) than in the government school classrooms&#8230; which BTW were orders of magnitude better when I grew up (in the 1940s and 50s) than anything I&#8217;ve been able to see today.</p>
<p>Homeschooling is the hope of our future if we are to progress scientifically, academically and politically to restore our American Republic to its former innovative entrepreneurial and sociological greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: Kia</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-23245</link>
		<dc:creator>Kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI-
I have been trying for a LONG time to get Carole Joy Seid&#039;s book list.  I have purchased her cd&#039;s but have not been able to attend a conference.  Could someone PLEASE help me to get a copy of this list......It truly would be a blessing to our family.
Thank you,
Kia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI-<br />
I have been trying for a LONG time to get Carole Joy Seid&#8217;s book list.  I have purchased her cd&#8217;s but have not been able to attend a conference.  Could someone PLEASE help me to get a copy of this list&#8230;&#8230;It truly would be a blessing to our family.<br />
Thank you,<br />
Kia</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-22983</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do keep in mind that a lot of what is peddled as science today (including a bunch in the area of &quot;Evolution&quot;) is a lot of theories and ideas parading as firm understanding.  Some has even been disproven, yet is still pushed in government school texts and such.  Modern science is far less &quot;scientific&quot; than we are led to believe.

Instill a love for learning about things will do more to make them truly good scientists than any amount of propaganda from the classroom.  Start taking junior college classes in high school if an &quot;academic&quot; version really is necessary for the direction they want to go.

Instill a healthy questioning attitude, even of the scientific elite and your child will be much better prepared to filter through the tripe we get in the name of science today.

Brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do keep in mind that a lot of what is peddled as science today (including a bunch in the area of &#8220;Evolution&#8221;) is a lot of theories and ideas parading as firm understanding.  Some has even been disproven, yet is still pushed in government school texts and such.  Modern science is far less &#8220;scientific&#8221; than we are led to believe.</p>
<p>Instill a love for learning about things will do more to make them truly good scientists than any amount of propaganda from the classroom.  Start taking junior college classes in high school if an &#8220;academic&#8221; version really is necessary for the direction they want to go.</p>
<p>Instill a healthy questioning attitude, even of the scientific elite and your child will be much better prepared to filter through the tripe we get in the name of science today.</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-22974</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go for it with the homeschooling. As a public school teacher, I have seen home schooled kids who were socially awkard because they lacked socialization and ones who had been involved in church groups, sports, scouts, etc. who were comfortable with their peers and usually better than usual with adults. I have seen kids who excelled academically and ones who struggled either because of poor teaching (their parent should never have been home schooling) or because of undiagnosed learning difficulties that needed more skilled intervention. But I have seen more positive than negative. As to the letter writer who was concerned they would not be exposed to philosophy and literature, most home schooled and privately schooled kids actually read a far wider variety, although admittedly they do get less of the modern. (And avoid Lolita, kids are exposed to sexualization far too soon, and a book about an adult and underaged girls has no business in a kids hands, even if it is considered a classic.) Many of our elementary kids read more written for school books than classics. 
The one area that I have seen home schooling very consistantly weak in, is science, but so is the public school these days. And I am not talking about the creation/evolution debate. As one person put it after listening to a homeschooling mother at our church spouting off all the &quot;proofs&quot; for creationism that she had gotten out of her children&#039;s curriculum, &quot;Kinda makes you wish she would switch sides, doesn&#039;t it?&quot; As to dealing with bullying, what part of being an adult does verbal and physical abuse from another kid or kids prepare you for? For every child who learns to deal successfully with bullies, there are many more who are seriously harmed emotionally and in self-esteem. Schools are aware of this and it is a major goal in many to stamp it out. Bullying by kids is not the same as difficult adults, it is the same as abuse and/or assault depending on intensity. 
Once you have built a foundation, don&#039;t be afraid to move them back to public schools or a good private school if you find they need a more qualified teacher than you; say you got them through algebra, but they need calculus, or they excel in science and really need someone who is more expert in  physics or chemistry. Not knowing their limits is a major weakness for parents homeschooling. A computerized HS biology program won&#039;t cut it for the kid who wants to go premed, although your future business major might be fine with it.
Expose your kids to many different kinds of people through volunteer work, mission trips, etc. which will no longer be limited because of school schedules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go for it with the homeschooling. As a public school teacher, I have seen home schooled kids who were socially awkard because they lacked socialization and ones who had been involved in church groups, sports, scouts, etc. who were comfortable with their peers and usually better than usual with adults. I have seen kids who excelled academically and ones who struggled either because of poor teaching (their parent should never have been home schooling) or because of undiagnosed learning difficulties that needed more skilled intervention. But I have seen more positive than negative. As to the letter writer who was concerned they would not be exposed to philosophy and literature, most home schooled and privately schooled kids actually read a far wider variety, although admittedly they do get less of the modern. (And avoid Lolita, kids are exposed to sexualization far too soon, and a book about an adult and underaged girls has no business in a kids hands, even if it is considered a classic.) Many of our elementary kids read more written for school books than classics.<br />
The one area that I have seen home schooling very consistantly weak in, is science, but so is the public school these days. And I am not talking about the creation/evolution debate. As one person put it after listening to a homeschooling mother at our church spouting off all the &#8220;proofs&#8221; for creationism that she had gotten out of her children&#8217;s curriculum, &#8220;Kinda makes you wish she would switch sides, doesn&#8217;t it?&#8221; As to dealing with bullying, what part of being an adult does verbal and physical abuse from another kid or kids prepare you for? For every child who learns to deal successfully with bullies, there are many more who are seriously harmed emotionally and in self-esteem. Schools are aware of this and it is a major goal in many to stamp it out. Bullying by kids is not the same as difficult adults, it is the same as abuse and/or assault depending on intensity.<br />
Once you have built a foundation, don&#8217;t be afraid to move them back to public schools or a good private school if you find they need a more qualified teacher than you; say you got them through algebra, but they need calculus, or they excel in science and really need someone who is more expert in  physics or chemistry. Not knowing their limits is a major weakness for parents homeschooling. A computerized HS biology program won&#8217;t cut it for the kid who wants to go premed, although your future business major might be fine with it.<br />
Expose your kids to many different kinds of people through volunteer work, mission trips, etc. which will no longer be limited because of school schedules.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-22865</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a public school teacher with 10 years of teaching experience, 2 masters degrees, and National Board Certification. I am, and have always been, a strong supporter or homeschooling and unschooling. Teachers are not the only folks who can provide a quality education to children. With the changes in legislation (testing, bureauracy, etc.), teachers have less time to devote to individual students. We spend an alarming amount of time redirecting behavior and testing. I applaud any parent who has the time and dedication to take the reigns and educate their own children. When my husband and I have our children, I intend to homeschool them, too. I do worry about the children in poverty (whom I teach) that are not able to receive the quality of education that they deserve, but I would argue that failure is a cultural, political, and familial failure, and not something that each teacher and parent that can change. The &quot;brain drain&quot; from public schools is disheartening, but I owe it to my own children to give them what they deserve... Good luck and kudos to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a public school teacher with 10 years of teaching experience, 2 masters degrees, and National Board Certification. I am, and have always been, a strong supporter or homeschooling and unschooling. Teachers are not the only folks who can provide a quality education to children. With the changes in legislation (testing, bureauracy, etc.), teachers have less time to devote to individual students. We spend an alarming amount of time redirecting behavior and testing. I applaud any parent who has the time and dedication to take the reigns and educate their own children. When my husband and I have our children, I intend to homeschool them, too. I do worry about the children in poverty (whom I teach) that are not able to receive the quality of education that they deserve, but I would argue that failure is a cultural, political, and familial failure, and not something that each teacher and parent that can change. The &#8220;brain drain&#8221; from public schools is disheartening, but I owe it to my own children to give them what they deserve&#8230; Good luck and kudos to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/04/29/deciding-to-homeschool/#comment-22753</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, not to be completely critical, Rozella, but do you know how to use punctuation?

These posts are about homeschooling and you don&#039;t even capitalize your sentences - did you attend public school?

I totally disagree with your comment about dealing with real world pressures.  If anything, I would think homeschooling would give a parent the opportunity to open up their child&#039;s world to the &quot;real world&quot; so much more than having them attend public school for nearly a third of their day.  

I am a public school graduate.  I went on to earn two bachelors (architecture and civil engineering) and a masters (civil engineering) from two &quot;big ten&quot; schools.  I believe a love of learning instilled by my parents helped me to succeed in both school and life after.  That said, I stopped by the junior high school I attended to pick up my niece one day about 8 years ago.  I walked down the hallway to hear students using foul language (f-this, f-you, etc.) and not one teacher anywhere in sight.  When I attended that same school - 18 years earlier -  teachers left their classrooms between classes to monitor behavior.  If we&#039;d so much as yelled something across the hall - foul or otherwise - we&#039;d have been warned to behave.  I would much rather homeschool my children and be able to teach them appropriate behavior then have them exposed to what other people may feed is &quot;real world&quot;.  It IS NOT appropriate to behave as those children were in the &quot;real world&quot;.  If they yell an obscenity across the hall at a co-worker someday, they will be fired.  If they bully or harass co-workers someday, they will be fired.  Children can be shown &quot;real world&quot; experiences without being subjected to the sub-par public schools as they exist today.

My nephew, now 16 and a junior at the high school I attended, told his mother one morning &quot;just don&#039;t look anyone in the eye and they&#039;ll leave you alone&quot;, meaning the other students.  My nephew is nearly 6 feet tall and is an athletic kid - and yet he worries about attending this school with other kids known to carry weapons, beat up other students, etc.  I DO NOT want that for my kids someday.  I don&#039;t want &quot;real world&quot; for them to include a knifing by another student who barely speaks English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, not to be completely critical, Rozella, but do you know how to use punctuation?</p>
<p>These posts are about homeschooling and you don&#8217;t even capitalize your sentences &#8211; did you attend public school?</p>
<p>I totally disagree with your comment about dealing with real world pressures.  If anything, I would think homeschooling would give a parent the opportunity to open up their child&#8217;s world to the &#8220;real world&#8221; so much more than having them attend public school for nearly a third of their day.  </p>
<p>I am a public school graduate.  I went on to earn two bachelors (architecture and civil engineering) and a masters (civil engineering) from two &#8220;big ten&#8221; schools.  I believe a love of learning instilled by my parents helped me to succeed in both school and life after.  That said, I stopped by the junior high school I attended to pick up my niece one day about 8 years ago.  I walked down the hallway to hear students using foul language (f-this, f-you, etc.) and not one teacher anywhere in sight.  When I attended that same school &#8211; 18 years earlier &#8211;  teachers left their classrooms between classes to monitor behavior.  If we&#8217;d so much as yelled something across the hall &#8211; foul or otherwise &#8211; we&#8217;d have been warned to behave.  I would much rather homeschool my children and be able to teach them appropriate behavior then have them exposed to what other people may feed is &#8220;real world&#8221;.  It IS NOT appropriate to behave as those children were in the &#8220;real world&#8221;.  If they yell an obscenity across the hall at a co-worker someday, they will be fired.  If they bully or harass co-workers someday, they will be fired.  Children can be shown &#8220;real world&#8221; experiences without being subjected to the sub-par public schools as they exist today.</p>
<p>My nephew, now 16 and a junior at the high school I attended, told his mother one morning &#8220;just don&#8217;t look anyone in the eye and they&#8217;ll leave you alone&#8221;, meaning the other students.  My nephew is nearly 6 feet tall and is an athletic kid &#8211; and yet he worries about attending this school with other kids known to carry weapons, beat up other students, etc.  I DO NOT want that for my kids someday.  I don&#8217;t want &#8220;real world&#8221; for them to include a knifing by another student who barely speaks English.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support your decision to homeschool your children. McGraw-Hill put out a program called Aleks that is very helpful with teaching math, since it will identify any weak areas the children may have and quickly bridges those learning gaps. If I could go back in time and with the right family situation, I would have begged my mom for homeschooling. Public schools waste massive amounts of valuable time, and I firmly believe that most of a person&#039;s necessary education can be done in 4 to 5 hours a day. As your kids get older, helping them to fill some of their day with a job or a personal business would really be neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support your decision to homeschool your children. McGraw-Hill put out a program called Aleks that is very helpful with teaching math, since it will identify any weak areas the children may have and quickly bridges those learning gaps. If I could go back in time and with the right family situation, I would have begged my mom for homeschooling. Public schools waste massive amounts of valuable time, and I firmly believe that most of a person&#8217;s necessary education can be done in 4 to 5 hours a day. As your kids get older, helping them to fill some of their day with a job or a personal business would really be neat.</p>
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