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		<title>By: Thrifty Gal</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/02/02/surviving-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-21481</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrifty Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old sheets would not make good towels or rags unless they are 100% cotton WITHOUT the permanent press finish.  Same with clothes: a poly or nylon garment wouldn&#039;t work either.

Don&#039;t forget the value of your time.  If you have a paying job, you might consider the value of your non-work time to be the same as that of your work time when considering whether to repair or replace.  It might take you x amount of time to repair something, but the dollar value of your time might be more than the the cost to buy a new one.  It depends on your priorities.  Even if you do not work outside the home--say you are a stay-at-home mom--you might think that spending an hour reading to your kids is more worthwhile than spending that hour repairing torn clothes or curtains.

I make a good salary but also sometimes work long hours (not my choice), so I personally often choose time over money.  Am I going to spend 2 hours repairing a blouse that I can replace with an hour&#039;s worth of salary?  Probably not, unless it&#039;s a favorite item.  I might feel different about it if I were in a household with someone who didn&#039;t work, if I were a housewife or retiree, or married to one.

Some things are not repairable. also.  Electronics, for instance, are usually not.  And things made out of plastic often aren&#039;t either.

Don&#039;t be nostalgic and assume that our 19th-century ancestors bought their land.  Remember homesteading...when the government GAVE land to (white) people after first stealing it from the Indians.

When times are tough it is easy to romanticize the past.  Don&#039;t forget that in &quot;Little House&quot; days and other times past people died of infectious diseases which can be cured or prevented today, and lots of women died in childbirth.

Don&#039;t get me wrong; I am NOT anti-frugal.  I wrap small gifts in pages of old scenic calendars, make grocery lists on the back of junk mail, turn out lights, go to the bargain matinees, take mass transit, etc.  I just wanted to remind people that we can get wrapped up in a false nostalgia about our past and also that the cheapest alternative is not necessarily the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old sheets would not make good towels or rags unless they are 100% cotton WITHOUT the permanent press finish.  Same with clothes: a poly or nylon garment wouldn&#8217;t work either.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the value of your time.  If you have a paying job, you might consider the value of your non-work time to be the same as that of your work time when considering whether to repair or replace.  It might take you x amount of time to repair something, but the dollar value of your time might be more than the the cost to buy a new one.  It depends on your priorities.  Even if you do not work outside the home&#8211;say you are a stay-at-home mom&#8211;you might think that spending an hour reading to your kids is more worthwhile than spending that hour repairing torn clothes or curtains.</p>
<p>I make a good salary but also sometimes work long hours (not my choice), so I personally often choose time over money.  Am I going to spend 2 hours repairing a blouse that I can replace with an hour&#8217;s worth of salary?  Probably not, unless it&#8217;s a favorite item.  I might feel different about it if I were in a household with someone who didn&#8217;t work, if I were a housewife or retiree, or married to one.</p>
<p>Some things are not repairable. also.  Electronics, for instance, are usually not.  And things made out of plastic often aren&#8217;t either.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be nostalgic and assume that our 19th-century ancestors bought their land.  Remember homesteading&#8230;when the government GAVE land to (white) people after first stealing it from the Indians.</p>
<p>When times are tough it is easy to romanticize the past.  Don&#8217;t forget that in &#8220;Little House&#8221; days and other times past people died of infectious diseases which can be cured or prevented today, and lots of women died in childbirth.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I am NOT anti-frugal.  I wrap small gifts in pages of old scenic calendars, make grocery lists on the back of junk mail, turn out lights, go to the bargain matinees, take mass transit, etc.  I just wanted to remind people that we can get wrapped up in a false nostalgia about our past and also that the cheapest alternative is not necessarily the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Surviving A Recession</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/02/02/surviving-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-15226</link>
		<dc:creator>Surviving A Recession</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our ancestors definitely had it a bit more difficult than we did. As such they had to learn survival skills that we do not have to today.

With that said it is nice to hear about people starting community gardens and such. The more self sufficient you are the better off you are.

People tend buy beyond their means and stay stuck in the machine. The more tightly you are attached to the machine the worse recessions and other economic down turns will affect you.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Surviving A Recession’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://survivingarecession.com/5-steps-to-prepare-for-a-recession&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;5 Steps To Prepare For A Recession&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our ancestors definitely had it a bit more difficult than we did. As such they had to learn survival skills that we do not have to today.</p>
<p>With that said it is nice to hear about people starting community gardens and such. The more self sufficient you are the better off you are.</p>
<p>People tend buy beyond their means and stay stuck in the machine. The more tightly you are attached to the machine the worse recessions and other economic down turns will affect you.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Surviving A Recession’s last blog post..<a href="http://survivingarecession.com/5-steps-to-prepare-for-a-recession" rel="nofollow">5 Steps To Prepare For A Recession</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: joebob</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2009/02/02/surviving-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-14481</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In corvallis we started a sustainability organization which came from our well-off community wanting to be green, but I always thought the real value would come when the depression starts, which it seems to have. I view the recession as a chance to move towards a better world with all the pain that is coming. With a town of 50K which includes the student at OSU our real town of maybe 30K has had 500 plus at our several community town hall meetings on sustainability. http://www.sustainablecorvallis.org/
We have an organization that started using a local currency called Hours which is sure expand.

I offer a website I found several months back about a small town in Texas and some of their history during the Depression that was uncovered and very worth a look at.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gazetteer2000/across/1934.htm

if that doesnt work you can search on google with texas across the fence fdr depression  and it will come up near the top and is called &quot;Depression 1934&quot;  - gives some history of a cannery set up with federal money that returned one half what was brought to it canned and kept the other half for distribution or sale and gave jobs to the residence of the city.

That is what we need to do - set up organizations and take care of our community and help and exchange with other communities. To entertain our selves with local talent and occasional outsiders like the Big Band era where bands traveled around on buses and played in school gyms with set up table and candles and a turning mirror ball....which i used to laugh at when i was young but now realize what they ment to the communities........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In corvallis we started a sustainability organization which came from our well-off community wanting to be green, but I always thought the real value would come when the depression starts, which it seems to have. I view the recession as a chance to move towards a better world with all the pain that is coming. With a town of 50K which includes the student at OSU our real town of maybe 30K has had 500 plus at our several community town hall meetings on sustainability. <a href="http://www.sustainablecorvallis.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustainablecorvallis.org/</a><br />
We have an organization that started using a local currency called Hours which is sure expand.</p>
<p>I offer a website I found several months back about a small town in Texas and some of their history during the Depression that was uncovered and very worth a look at.</p>
<p><a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gazetteer2000/across/1934.htm" rel="nofollow">http://freepages.genealogy.roo.....s/1934.htm</a></p>
<p>if that doesnt work you can search on google with texas across the fence fdr depression  and it will come up near the top and is called &#8220;Depression 1934&#8243;  &#8211; gives some history of a cannery set up with federal money that returned one half what was brought to it canned and kept the other half for distribution or sale and gave jobs to the residence of the city.</p>
<p>That is what we need to do &#8211; set up organizations and take care of our community and help and exchange with other communities. To entertain our selves with local talent and occasional outsiders like the Big Band era where bands traveled around on buses and played in school gyms with set up table and candles and a turning mirror ball&#8230;.which i used to laugh at when i was young but now realize what they ment to the communities&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents both grew up during the Great Depression, and as a result, they were VERY frugal adults.  While I was growing up, nothing was tossed in the trash unless it absolutely could not be re-used in some form.  (I laughingly tell people that I was recycling before the word was invented!)

My mom took bedsheets that were too worn to be used on the bed and cut out the good portions, hemmed them and used them as kitchen towels, dust or cleaning cloths.  When a bath towel became frayed, she cut off the frayed portion, hemmed it, and it went back into service.  When towels were beyond reuse as towels, they were turned into cleaning cloths, or they went to my father, who used them for grease rags in his auto repair shop.  

Clothing was never thrown away; it was mended, given to others if it was too small, or turned into grease rags if it was beyond mending.  When an article of clothing was condemmed to the &quot;grease rag&quot; stage, all buttons were carefully removed and stashed in Mom&#039;s &quot;button can&quot; to be reused on future articles of clothing.  

If mom caught you tossing a piece of aluminum foil or a plastic bag that had been used only once, her wrath was upon you.  She took each sheet of foil, smoothed it out and folded it neatly for re-use.  The same was true for plastic bags.


When my dad serviced our car, the old fan belt and air filter were stashed in the trunk as &quot;backups&quot; in case we had a breakdown on the road.  He also salvaged every nut, bolt and screw from repair jobs, which went into his supply bin for re-use on future jobs.

All of these things were pretty frustrating to me as a child, but when I look back, I realize that they did make me a better person.  

Even though I&#039;m financially independent, I think twice before I actually make a purchase, regardless of the price..  (Even if an item is &quot;on sale&quot; or &quot;clearance priced&quot;, it is still wasted money if you rarely use the item.) 

I don&#039;t toss clothing; instead, I give it to a local shelter for abused families.  While this isn&#039;t saving me any money, it is providing help to others who need it.

Instead of tossing bottles, jars, paper and plastic into the trash can, I send them to the recycling center.  Again, this doesn&#039;t save me money, but it does contribute to saving the environment.

There are some things my parents did that I don&#039;t, but I try to do what I can to live frugally and help other people and our environment.

I do find it ironic that, not that long ago, careful spending and re-using items was often called &quot;cheap.&quot;  But now, in light of the current economic state, these same practices are considered &quot;frugal&quot; and &quot;necessary to survive.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents both grew up during the Great Depression, and as a result, they were VERY frugal adults.  While I was growing up, nothing was tossed in the trash unless it absolutely could not be re-used in some form.  (I laughingly tell people that I was recycling before the word was invented!)</p>
<p>My mom took bedsheets that were too worn to be used on the bed and cut out the good portions, hemmed them and used them as kitchen towels, dust or cleaning cloths.  When a bath towel became frayed, she cut off the frayed portion, hemmed it, and it went back into service.  When towels were beyond reuse as towels, they were turned into cleaning cloths, or they went to my father, who used them for grease rags in his auto repair shop.  </p>
<p>Clothing was never thrown away; it was mended, given to others if it was too small, or turned into grease rags if it was beyond mending.  When an article of clothing was condemmed to the &#8220;grease rag&#8221; stage, all buttons were carefully removed and stashed in Mom&#8217;s &#8220;button can&#8221; to be reused on future articles of clothing.  </p>
<p>If mom caught you tossing a piece of aluminum foil or a plastic bag that had been used only once, her wrath was upon you.  She took each sheet of foil, smoothed it out and folded it neatly for re-use.  The same was true for plastic bags.</p>
<p>When my dad serviced our car, the old fan belt and air filter were stashed in the trunk as &#8220;backups&#8221; in case we had a breakdown on the road.  He also salvaged every nut, bolt and screw from repair jobs, which went into his supply bin for re-use on future jobs.</p>
<p>All of these things were pretty frustrating to me as a child, but when I look back, I realize that they did make me a better person.  </p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;m financially independent, I think twice before I actually make a purchase, regardless of the price..  (Even if an item is &#8220;on sale&#8221; or &#8220;clearance priced&#8221;, it is still wasted money if you rarely use the item.) </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t toss clothing; instead, I give it to a local shelter for abused families.  While this isn&#8217;t saving me any money, it is providing help to others who need it.</p>
<p>Instead of tossing bottles, jars, paper and plastic into the trash can, I send them to the recycling center.  Again, this doesn&#8217;t save me money, but it does contribute to saving the environment.</p>
<p>There are some things my parents did that I don&#8217;t, but I try to do what I can to live frugally and help other people and our environment.</p>
<p>I do find it ironic that, not that long ago, careful spending and re-using items was often called &#8220;cheap.&#8221;  But now, in light of the current economic state, these same practices are considered &#8220;frugal&#8221; and &#8220;necessary to survive.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cln56</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dad grew up in the depression, said their dinners consisted of mostly MONO meals, meaning just that one item for dinner: fried potatoes w/ onions, cherry cobbler, pot of beans &amp; cornbread, oatmeal etc. When I mean MONO, I mean thats all they had, but plenty of it. Of course they grew their veggies and got some from relatives that had farms etc. People now a days dont know how to eat cheap, they think of chips, lunchmeat sandwiches, crap like that, not healthy cheap: carrots, beans, cornbread, oatmeal etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dad grew up in the depression, said their dinners consisted of mostly MONO meals, meaning just that one item for dinner: fried potatoes w/ onions, cherry cobbler, pot of beans &amp; cornbread, oatmeal etc. When I mean MONO, I mean thats all they had, but plenty of it. Of course they grew their veggies and got some from relatives that had farms etc. People now a days dont know how to eat cheap, they think of chips, lunchmeat sandwiches, crap like that, not healthy cheap: carrots, beans, cornbread, oatmeal etc</p>
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		<title>By: The Friday gathering - Cutting back</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Friday gathering - Cutting back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Borgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In difficult times like this, it&#039;s really important to know how to balance and save money. One of the most important lesson my grand mother told me is not to throw away anything, if it&#039;s still usable. It really depends on how people view their needs to wants.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Borgz’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://watch-sports-live.blogspot.com/2009/02/wwe-2009-no-way-out-official-theme-song.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WWE 2009 No Way Out Official Theme Song&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In difficult times like this, it&#8217;s really important to know how to balance and save money. One of the most important lesson my grand mother told me is not to throw away anything, if it&#8217;s still usable. It really depends on how people view their needs to wants.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Borgz’s last blog post..<a href="http://watch-sports-live.blogspot.com/2009/02/wwe-2009-no-way-out-official-theme-song.html" rel="nofollow">WWE 2009 No Way Out Official Theme Song</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always amazed at how people can turn wants into needs in their minds.  I view &quot;needs&quot; as being what is necessary to keep body and soul together--nutritious food, shelter, health, clean water. 

I understand that some people need things such as cell phones and internet connections to do their jobs which pays for the needs.  But, by and large,(and  with the exception of certain medicines) how can something that didn&#039;t even exist 30 or so years ago be a true need?

Now, I don&#039;t think there is anything wrong with having some of the wants. I have quite a few of them myself.  It just seems silly, and limiting. To label them as needs.

My favorite quote is an old aboriginal saying: &quot;The more you know, the less you need.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always amazed at how people can turn wants into needs in their minds.  I view &#8220;needs&#8221; as being what is necessary to keep body and soul together&#8211;nutritious food, shelter, health, clean water. </p>
<p>I understand that some people need things such as cell phones and internet connections to do their jobs which pays for the needs.  But, by and large,(and  with the exception of certain medicines) how can something that didn&#8217;t even exist 30 or so years ago be a true need?</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with having some of the wants. I have quite a few of them myself.  It just seems silly, and limiting. To label them as needs.</p>
<p>My favorite quote is an old aboriginal saying: &#8220;The more you know, the less you need.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your post a lot. Something I&#039;m doing with friends is getting together each season and swapping clothes that either don&#039;t fit or that we&#039;re sick of. It&#039;s like getting new clothes without buying anything!

http://whatmimiread.blogspot.com/2009/02/recession-proofing-yourself.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your post a lot. Something I&#8217;m doing with friends is getting together each season and swapping clothes that either don&#8217;t fit or that we&#8217;re sick of. It&#8217;s like getting new clothes without buying anything!</p>
<p><a href="http://whatmimiread.blogspot.com/2009/02/recession-proofing-yourself.html" rel="nofollow">http://whatmimiread.blogspot.c.....rself.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ScrapperMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrapperMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just addressed some of these items on our blog as well. We got together with a friend that was skilled in an area we needed in order to repair something that otherwise would have cost hundred&#039;s of dollars to replace. Everyone has special talents and abilities so it makes sense to help friends and ask for their help when you need it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;ScrapperMom’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DontFeedTheAlligators/~3/529301772/fix-dont-pitch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fix, Don’t Pitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just addressed some of these items on our blog as well. We got together with a friend that was skilled in an area we needed in order to repair something that otherwise would have cost hundred&#8217;s of dollars to replace. Everyone has special talents and abilities so it makes sense to help friends and ask for their help when you need it.</p>
<p><abbr><em>ScrapperMom’s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DontFeedTheAlligators/~3/529301772/fix-dont-pitch" rel="nofollow">Fix, Don’t Pitch</a></em></abbr></p>
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