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		<title>By: Interesting and Timely Advice &#171; Faery Inn</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2008/06/16/not-keeping-up-with-our-parents-what-to-do-about-housing/comment-page-1/#comment-14490</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting and Timely Advice &#171; Faery Inn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Johannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I agree with you about why homes have become so expensive. I asked a mortgage broker how so many people could afford the huge number of $700,000+ homes being built in our area. His answer was longer term mortgages (40+ years), lower down payment requirements, and ARM loans. As long as people were stretching their budgets to pay these prices, they kept going up. Now, people have stretched until their budgets have finally snapped, and the prices are crashing down.

In reality, many people were already overextending themselves when buying their homes before the ARMS&#039;s and 40+ year mortgages. Being in the construction industry, my husband has been working in large homes for 20+ years and has always talked about how so many of these houses were still almost &quot;empty&quot; even after the owners had lived there for several years. Their mortgages were so expensive, they couldn&#039;t afford furniture, curtains, etc.

Real estate agents and lenders definitely share part of the blame. When we bought our home 16 years ago, the agent and lender tried to get us to buy a house at our max approved loan amount, but we had determined our own upper limit and wouldn&#039;t consider anything more expensive. We&#039;ve never regretted that and never had to worry about losing our home even when money was tight and when we lived on one income while our child was young. Our home will be paid off many years early, and we have saved tens of thousands of dollars in interest. The peace of mind has been worth way more than a bigger house!

Thanks for your great blog! I am a regular reader and enjoy your practical advice. I hope everyone buying a home follows your advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I agree with you about why homes have become so expensive. I asked a mortgage broker how so many people could afford the huge number of $700,000+ homes being built in our area. His answer was longer term mortgages (40+ years), lower down payment requirements, and ARM loans. As long as people were stretching their budgets to pay these prices, they kept going up. Now, people have stretched until their budgets have finally snapped, and the prices are crashing down.</p>
<p>In reality, many people were already overextending themselves when buying their homes before the ARMS&#8217;s and 40+ year mortgages. Being in the construction industry, my husband has been working in large homes for 20+ years and has always talked about how so many of these houses were still almost &#8220;empty&#8221; even after the owners had lived there for several years. Their mortgages were so expensive, they couldn&#8217;t afford furniture, curtains, etc.</p>
<p>Real estate agents and lenders definitely share part of the blame. When we bought our home 16 years ago, the agent and lender tried to get us to buy a house at our max approved loan amount, but we had determined our own upper limit and wouldn&#8217;t consider anything more expensive. We&#8217;ve never regretted that and never had to worry about losing our home even when money was tight and when we lived on one income while our child was young. Our home will be paid off many years early, and we have saved tens of thousands of dollars in interest. The peace of mind has been worth way more than a bigger house!</p>
<p>Thanks for your great blog! I am a regular reader and enjoy your practical advice. I hope everyone buying a home follows your advice!</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  And great advice.  I especially liked Marci&#039;s comment about being sure you can handle it if you lose one of your incomes.  When we purchased our current home, we didn&#039;t plan on becoming a one income couple.  Because of health problems, I&#039;ve had to quit my job.  Because both my husband and I are pretty conservative financially, we&#039;re doing just fine on one income.  Even with a mortgage payment.  

When we purchased our previous home, the mortgage broker kept insisting that we could aford almost 3 times as much for a home.  Even after we explained that we were unwilling to stop tithing or lower our retirment savings.  We finally just told her that this was the house we wanted and if she didn&#039;t want to give us that small a mortgage, we&#039;d go somewhere else.  

During the big boom, there was a lot of pressure on the mortgage folks to push higher loans to get higher returns for the company.  Combine that with the realtor&#039;s desire for a larger commission and the general marketing that we&#039;ve got to have more and newer and better and you end up with ... well, today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  And great advice.  I especially liked Marci&#8217;s comment about being sure you can handle it if you lose one of your incomes.  When we purchased our current home, we didn&#8217;t plan on becoming a one income couple.  Because of health problems, I&#8217;ve had to quit my job.  Because both my husband and I are pretty conservative financially, we&#8217;re doing just fine on one income.  Even with a mortgage payment.  </p>
<p>When we purchased our previous home, the mortgage broker kept insisting that we could aford almost 3 times as much for a home.  Even after we explained that we were unwilling to stop tithing or lower our retirment savings.  We finally just told her that this was the house we wanted and if she didn&#8217;t want to give us that small a mortgage, we&#8217;d go somewhere else.  </p>
<p>During the big boom, there was a lot of pressure on the mortgage folks to push higher loans to get higher returns for the company.  Combine that with the realtor&#8217;s desire for a larger commission and the general marketing that we&#8217;ve got to have more and newer and better and you end up with &#8230; well, today.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During a housing boom rents always lag house prices!</description>
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		<title>By: Marci in Rainy NW OR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marci in Rainy NW OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a shock to find that the ratio between rents and mortgages are so different there.   Here they tend to be more equal - as rents have risen a lot in the last few years.

My last mortgage (including tax and ins) was $515 on the 3/2 manufactured home.   At the time I bought that house I was paying $500 for rent, so it made sense to buy.

Now our minimum rents are about $700 up to $1400. And the housing prices (this year- they were high and out of reason last year but have dropped drastically now) have dropped back down to the same range.   That&#039;s the good news - unfortunately the wages here tend to be very low also.

My reason for buying had more to do with retirement - I don&#039;t want to be paying mortgage nor rent when I retire, altho I&#039;ll be paying about $150/mo for taxes and insurance. 

Good luck :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a shock to find that the ratio between rents and mortgages are so different there.   Here they tend to be more equal &#8211; as rents have risen a lot in the last few years.</p>
<p>My last mortgage (including tax and ins) was $515 on the 3/2 manufactured home.   At the time I bought that house I was paying $500 for rent, so it made sense to buy.</p>
<p>Now our minimum rents are about $700 up to $1400. And the housing prices (this year- they were high and out of reason last year but have dropped drastically now) have dropped back down to the same range.   That&#8217;s the good news &#8211; unfortunately the wages here tend to be very low also.</p>
<p>My reason for buying had more to do with retirement &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to be paying mortgage nor rent when I retire, altho I&#8217;ll be paying about $150/mo for taxes and insurance. </p>
<p>Good luck :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Property taxes generally run between $2000-$2500 for a 3 bedroom home in our town.  A mortgage (before property taxes) is $1225 a month.  Add property taxes of $2000, and it comes to $1391.  That&#039;s before PMI or money to set aside for repairs.

You can find a 3 bedroom house for rent for around $1000.  Or you can rent a duplex, like we do, and pay less than $700, and that includes water, which is expensive in our town.

It is difficult the be a renter in a land of owners, and I can&#039;t say that I never have the desire to just buy.  But a mortgage right now would be well over what we can afford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Property taxes generally run between $2000-$2500 for a 3 bedroom home in our town.  A mortgage (before property taxes) is $1225 a month.  Add property taxes of $2000, and it comes to $1391.  That&#8217;s before PMI or money to set aside for repairs.</p>
<p>You can find a 3 bedroom house for rent for around $1000.  Or you can rent a duplex, like we do, and pay less than $700, and that includes water, which is expensive in our town.</p>
<p>It is difficult the be a renter in a land of owners, and I can&#8217;t say that I never have the desire to just buy.  But a mortgage right now would be well over what we can afford.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does rent compare to a mortgage and property taxes assuming an average down-payment 5% or a mortgage of 210,000

It&#039;s very difficult to be a renter in a land of owners, also having a paid for house is the corner stone of most peoples retirement plans. although many seniors are asset rich and cash flow poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does rent compare to a mortgage and property taxes assuming an average down-payment 5% or a mortgage of 210,000</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very difficult to be a renter in a land of owners, also having a paid for house is the corner stone of most peoples retirement plans. although many seniors are asset rich and cash flow poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think increased expectations of a home also contribute to the problem. For a lot of us, our parents&#039; first houses would be considered below our standards. What? Only one bathroom? I couldn&#039;t possibly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think increased expectations of a home also contribute to the problem. For a lot of us, our parents&#8217; first houses would be considered below our standards. What? Only one bathroom? I couldn&#8217;t possibly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MITBeta - I do agree that banks provided some very bad loans, but when you sign on the dotted line, you are responsible, just like if you get caught with drugs, you&#039;re busted.  Does that absolve the banks of their responsibility?  No, and many of the banks are paying the price by going bankrupt.

The problem that I have is the author seems to look at wealthy people as evil, just because they have money.  Wealthy people are not evil, nor do they owe the rest of us, just because they happen to have a lot of money.

And though most people will not become multi-billionaires, we do live in a country where it is possible to move up the income ladder with a lot of determination.  If Chris Gardner (The Pursuit of Happyness) can do it, it&#039;s certainly possible for the rest of us.  I know he&#039;s had to endure more hardship than I ever have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MITBeta &#8211; I do agree that banks provided some very bad loans, but when you sign on the dotted line, you are responsible, just like if you get caught with drugs, you&#8217;re busted.  Does that absolve the banks of their responsibility?  No, and many of the banks are paying the price by going bankrupt.</p>
<p>The problem that I have is the author seems to look at wealthy people as evil, just because they have money.  Wealthy people are not evil, nor do they owe the rest of us, just because they happen to have a lot of money.</p>
<p>And though most people will not become multi-billionaires, we do live in a country where it is possible to move up the income ladder with a lot of determination.  If Chris Gardner (The Pursuit of Happyness) can do it, it&#8217;s certainly possible for the rest of us.  I know he&#8217;s had to endure more hardship than I ever have!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley @ Wide Open Wallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley @ Wide Open Wallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to sit down with your spouse and make a reasonable budget.  Live on that budget for a while.  How does it feel?

Best advice ever!</description>
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<p>Best advice ever!</p>
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