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	<title>Comments on: November Reduce-a-Bill Challenge &#8211; The Grocery Bill, Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2007/11/02/november-reduce-a-bill-challenge-the-grocery-bill-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2124</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy - that&#039;s a great idea.  We don&#039;t have a freezer yet, but I&#039;m trying to figure out how to fit one into our house.  We need to get rid of the piano first.  Unfortunately we don&#039;t have a garage to put one in.  I know I could take better advantage of deals if I had more freezer space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy &#8211; that&#8217;s a great idea.  We don&#8217;t have a freezer yet, but I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to fit one into our house.  We need to get rid of the piano first.  Unfortunately we don&#8217;t have a garage to put one in.  I know I could take better advantage of deals if I had more freezer space.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After several years looking for a solution for our simple tastes and trying to keep the food budget under control we purchased a 7cf chest freezer (more energy efficient than the uprights) and started shopping at Sam&#039;s Club.  I buy meats that are reduced with a soon to expire &quot;sell before&quot; date, separate into single meal packages and freeze. I also do this with dry goods that are freezable (spices, coffee, sugar, flour, berries, etc.).

I keep a food price log for 3 stores; Sam&#039;s, Wal-Mart and our local supermarket. I always check the sales prices at our local supermarkets to be sure Sam&#039;s is the better price--it isn&#039;t always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After several years looking for a solution for our simple tastes and trying to keep the food budget under control we purchased a 7cf chest freezer (more energy efficient than the uprights) and started shopping at Sam&#8217;s Club.  I buy meats that are reduced with a soon to expire &#8220;sell before&#8221; date, separate into single meal packages and freeze. I also do this with dry goods that are freezable (spices, coffee, sugar, flour, berries, etc.).</p>
<p>I keep a food price log for 3 stores; Sam&#8217;s, Wal-Mart and our local supermarket. I always check the sales prices at our local supermarkets to be sure Sam&#8217;s is the better price&#8211;it isn&#8217;t always.</p>
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		<title>By: Kandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought about a price book...great tip Rob :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought about a price book&#8230;great tip Rob :)</p>
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		<title>By: Month of Menu Planning &#124; beingfrugal.net</title>
		<link>http://beingfrugal.net/2007/11/02/november-reduce-a-bill-challenge-the-grocery-bill-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Month of Menu Planning &#124; beingfrugal.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I posted last week, I&#8217;m taking a different strategy to reducing my grocery bill this month. I made out a menu plan for the entire month, and I will be doing the bulk of my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I posted last week, I&#8217;m taking a different strategy to reducing my grocery bill this month. I made out a menu plan for the entire month, and I will be doing the bulk of my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rob.  I&#039;m going shopping tomorrow, so I will take a pen and paper with me and start writing things down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rob.  I&#8217;m going shopping tomorrow, so I will take a pen and paper with me and start writing things down!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynnae

I know what you mean about price inflation, good lord, everythings gone up. Somethings like cereal by 5 or 10 cents, other like my favourite coffee took a 50% hike (from 1.06 to 1.62) than went onsale this week at the old price. 

a price book at it&#039;s simplist is a shopping list with prices. Very simple and surprisingly quite effective. Simple make a list of 30 or so most common things you buy and note the prices when you go shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynnae</p>
<p>I know what you mean about price inflation, good lord, everythings gone up. Somethings like cereal by 5 or 10 cents, other like my favourite coffee took a 50% hike (from 1.06 to 1.62) than went onsale this week at the old price. </p>
<p>a price book at it&#8217;s simplist is a shopping list with prices. Very simple and surprisingly quite effective. Simple make a list of 30 or so most common things you buy and note the prices when you go shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob- Thanks for the info.  I&#039;m definitely going to try to get a price book started this month.  Though I&#039;m not sure I want to notice food inflation anymore than I&#039;m already noticing it! :)  I know which store around here is less expensive most of the time, but sometimes other stores have sales that beat the &quot;cheap&quot; store, and I&#039;m not always sure.  It would be nice to have a reference point like a pricebook.

And I do the same thing with the store brands.  I buy a lot of store brands, too.  Most of the time there&#039;s not a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob- Thanks for the info.  I&#8217;m definitely going to try to get a price book started this month.  Though I&#8217;m not sure I want to notice food inflation anymore than I&#8217;m already noticing it! :)  I know which store around here is less expensive most of the time, but sometimes other stores have sales that beat the &#8220;cheap&#8221; store, and I&#8217;m not always sure.  It would be nice to have a reference point like a pricebook.</p>
<p>And I do the same thing with the store brands.  I buy a lot of store brands, too.  Most of the time there&#8217;s not a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use excel to keep track of my bills so I simply added a tab where I keep a shopping list. I shop mainly at two stores (Carrefour and Plus a German discount chain) so I&#039;ve got a list of things I buy at each store. It takes a bit of work to write the prices down the first few times. I found that I tended to the same things each week. The hardest part is remembering to take a pen and paper to update the prices. You&#039;d also be surprised at the price spread between stores. For example a pineapple at Carrefour runs almost 5€ where as a slightly smaller one (but just as good) is usually less than 2€. Quite a savings. One that I wouldn&#039;t have been aware of before having a price book.  I&#039;ve been using a price book for a while now and can usually shop off the top of my head. Occationally I&#039;ll print off my list to see how close I can come to predicting my spending, usually within a euro or two. 

One other trick I learned is to take things I buy regularly (anything from toleit paper to jogurt) and by the cheapest no name product and work my way up the foodchain unitll I find one I like. About 75% of the products I buy are store brands, the rest are brandnames. There is a bit of waste, I threw out alot of yorgurt unitll I found one I like. Recently I found a store brand that I really liked, less than half the cost of the brand name one I used to buy. 

The other advantage to a price book is less waste. You tend to buy things you&#039;ll use. As well you can plan out purchases. I may leave some stocking up if it&#039;s a large shopping week. 

The only real negative to a price book is you really really notice price hikes. Food inflation really takes on a new meaning when your aware of prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use excel to keep track of my bills so I simply added a tab where I keep a shopping list. I shop mainly at two stores (Carrefour and Plus a German discount chain) so I&#8217;ve got a list of things I buy at each store. It takes a bit of work to write the prices down the first few times. I found that I tended to the same things each week. The hardest part is remembering to take a pen and paper to update the prices. You&#8217;d also be surprised at the price spread between stores. For example a pineapple at Carrefour runs almost 5€ where as a slightly smaller one (but just as good) is usually less than 2€. Quite a savings. One that I wouldn&#8217;t have been aware of before having a price book.  I&#8217;ve been using a price book for a while now and can usually shop off the top of my head. Occationally I&#8217;ll print off my list to see how close I can come to predicting my spending, usually within a euro or two. </p>
<p>One other trick I learned is to take things I buy regularly (anything from toleit paper to jogurt) and by the cheapest no name product and work my way up the foodchain unitll I find one I like. About 75% of the products I buy are store brands, the rest are brandnames. There is a bit of waste, I threw out alot of yorgurt unitll I found one I like. Recently I found a store brand that I really liked, less than half the cost of the brand name one I used to buy. </p>
<p>The other advantage to a price book is less waste. You tend to buy things you&#8217;ll use. As well you can plan out purchases. I may leave some stocking up if it&#8217;s a large shopping week. </p>
<p>The only real negative to a price book is you really really notice price hikes. Food inflation really takes on a new meaning when your aware of prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob - Thanks for your comment.  I completely agree that she&#039;s probably not able to keep her grocery bill under $200 these days.  And I don&#039;t have a freezer, so buying a side of beef is completely out for me.  But I do like her strategy.  I think she provides a good basis for making a shopping plan that you can customize to meet your own needs.

And thanks for bringing up the price book.  I haven&#039;t done that yet, and I&#039;d love to.  Do you have any advice?  How do you maintain yours?  Excel Spreadsheet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob &#8211; Thanks for your comment.  I completely agree that she&#8217;s probably not able to keep her grocery bill under $200 these days.  And I don&#8217;t have a freezer, so buying a side of beef is completely out for me.  But I do like her strategy.  I think she provides a good basis for making a shopping plan that you can customize to meet your own needs.</p>
<p>And thanks for bringing up the price book.  I haven&#8217;t done that yet, and I&#8217;d love to.  Do you have any advice?  How do you maintain yours?  Excel Spreadsheet?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the shopping book, some of her ideas were quite good but with food inflation heating up again I don&#039;t think she&#039;ll be spending under 200 amonth for much longer. Her idea of setting aside 30 a month 360 a year for meat is a good one, as you can buy a side of beef. Although we were first married we bought a side of beef but never ate it so we gave away. The biggest surprise was that she doens&#039;t advicate using a price book. A price book is in my opinion the courner stone to furgal shopping budget. It won&#039;t save you a ton of money (10-15% is about right) but it will make you a far more exfective shopper (even if you wince at every price increase) I find that I spend between 70 and 80 eruos a weeke on shopping while a small drop from before I find I get much better value for the money than I did before.

One thing I have noticed is that those who spend very little on food (like the forementioned lady who spends less than 200 a month on food) are very good at cutting courners on cooking. Let give me yoiu an example a recepe I picked up from a friend. Compare the ingrededanits list. the first is from someone who spends much less than me on food and feeds a family of 4 (vs just the wife and I)

The food strecher way
Chick Peas 3 jars
tomatoe frio 1 tin
2 slices bacon
half a Chirico 

Mine
chick peas 3 jars
tomato frio 3 jars
diced tomatoes 1 tin
2 packs bacon
2 chirico (Spanish sausage)
Snow peas (or beans not sure what they are)

As you can see my shopping bill is higher because I love to stuff my food full. But inspite of that I&#039;ve manage to cut down my shopping budget quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the shopping book, some of her ideas were quite good but with food inflation heating up again I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;ll be spending under 200 amonth for much longer. Her idea of setting aside 30 a month 360 a year for meat is a good one, as you can buy a side of beef. Although we were first married we bought a side of beef but never ate it so we gave away. The biggest surprise was that she doens&#8217;t advicate using a price book. A price book is in my opinion the courner stone to furgal shopping budget. It won&#8217;t save you a ton of money (10-15% is about right) but it will make you a far more exfective shopper (even if you wince at every price increase) I find that I spend between 70 and 80 eruos a weeke on shopping while a small drop from before I find I get much better value for the money than I did before.</p>
<p>One thing I have noticed is that those who spend very little on food (like the forementioned lady who spends less than 200 a month on food) are very good at cutting courners on cooking. Let give me yoiu an example a recepe I picked up from a friend. Compare the ingrededanits list. the first is from someone who spends much less than me on food and feeds a family of 4 (vs just the wife and I)</p>
<p>The food strecher way<br />
Chick Peas 3 jars<br />
tomatoe frio 1 tin<br />
2 slices bacon<br />
half a Chirico </p>
<p>Mine<br />
chick peas 3 jars<br />
tomato frio 3 jars<br />
diced tomatoes 1 tin<br />
2 packs bacon<br />
2 chirico (Spanish sausage)<br />
Snow peas (or beans not sure what they are)</p>
<p>As you can see my shopping bill is higher because I love to stuff my food full. But inspite of that I&#8217;ve manage to cut down my shopping budget quite a bit.</p>
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